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April 6th, 2007

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07:55 pm - Male with a question

Obviously, I don't personally have Turner, being a male. But my best friend does. Before meeting her, I'd never heard of it, but I've been learning about it since both through her and through Internet research.

Reading over some of the last few posts, and comparing with things my friend and I have discussed, I did have one question, and I hope that asking it won't make anyone uncomfortable.

Is there a line of measurement between "having a child is a serious risk" and "can't have children"? She and I have talked about that it would be a serious risk for her, because of a high chance of passing on the Syndrome if she had a girl. But it's apparently a possibility for her, not an impossibility. So I'm wondering if there's a border line there. I *do* know that she's told me that she had a very rare positive in her puberty having started normally without need for hormone treatment. She is of course quite small vertically, but her feminine development seems to have followed normal lines, just scaled down for her size. If I were to take a guess, I would think perhaps that the hormones are the dividing line between "dangerous" and "can't", but I didn't want to go on my own guessing. Can anyone explain?

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Date:April 7th, 2007 12:41 am (UTC)
Well, being that your friend started puberty normally, (I have TS and I personally did not and needed the horomones, there is a slim chance of her conceiving on her own, but keep in mind the word slim. If she really wants to be pregnant someday, she may still need to look into IVF using donor eggs. Usually, since TS don't go through puberty normally, there is virtually no chance of pregnancy otherwise. The reason they say pregnancy in TS is risky is for a few reasons: First, there is an increased risk of miscarriage in TS (even using donor eggs, and of course IVF treatments don't always work), second women with TS are prone to heart problems and high blood pressure, these risk are increased during pregnancy, or appear during it even if the woman didn't have high blood pressure or a heart problem before. There have been some cases of pregnant women with TS dying of Aortic disection. I would suggest to your friend to have a good physical and cardiac check up if she is considering pregnancy, to at least rule out already having those problems before hand. Also, if she does conceive naturally, I believe there is chance of passing on TS or other chromosome disorders such as Down's Syndrome, I hope this helps...
Date:October 27th, 2007 11:28 am (UTC)

conception and the possibility of passing the condition onto future children

my daughter aged 19 now was orginally thought to have turners syndrome but chromosome studies were completely normal, 46xy and not 46xo like women suffering from turners. there was also some talk from our pediatrican suggested she could have turners mosiac, in simple terms, some parts of her body would have normal genes or some parts 46x0. over the years we now know she has another condition called noonans syndrome which is autosomal dominant condition meaning there is a 50/50 chance she could pass this gene mutation on to any subsequent children she may have. I read a lot of stuff about genes to my exhaustion but you might like to know that it is the "father" that determines the sex of the baby(the Y for a boy or the X for a girl and you probably know turners is an xo therefore I think there is a very small risk and chances are the baby will be completely healthy.
turners is more of a sporadic condition, an accident if you like. Keep in mind that your wife's mother obvioulsy didnt' have turners syndrome and I don't believe it works in some other chromosomal disorders like Downs syndrome, it's just an accident as far as I have researched to my understanding.
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Date:April 7th, 2007 11:04 am (UTC)
Yeah, as the first replyer said, pregancy carries a higher risk than usual for Turner's women no matter what the circumstances are and obviously the overall health of the individual would dictate whether the risk was too great or not.

In terms of actually being able to conceive, it all comes down to whether or not the ovaries are working or not. Starting puberty normally, as your friend did, would indicate that they are working although this is a somewhat rare occurrence and, as has already been said, the chances of conceiving naturally and carrying to term are unfortunately still not fantastic. In most cases, HRT is needed to induce puberty and therefore it's pretty safe to say that the ovaries aren't working and if pregnancy is to happen at all, it would be through IVF with a donor egg.
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Date:April 7th, 2007 09:19 pm (UTC)
There are quite a few factors she'll have to weigh up when you make this decision. There are risks for both the mother and the child. As previous posters have said, high blood pressure is often a feature of turners, narrow birth canals are likely to mean a c-section birth. There's possible heart issues as well (some turners women have aortic valves which have a risk of dissection, and the issue of pregnancy diabetes, which is fairly prevalent in Turner's girls. I think the answer to your question really depends on her individual case, there's such a spectrum.

I hate to do the unhelpful "go see a doctor" thing, but really her best bet is good gynaecological care and advice. She'll be making the decisions of course at the end of the day, but the more advice she gets the easier it will be to decide what the risks are and whether it's worth taking them for a 'natural' pregnancy.

I wish her luck :)

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Date:July 5th, 2007 07:54 pm (UTC)
Hi :D

I think that is great that you are trying to learn more about it and being so supportive for your friend. I am not sure what her case is specifically I know it can vary.

For me I cannot physically have children at least that is what I have been told as not only do I have issues with my system (ovaries) etc but also a lot of other health issues. Also even if it was not possibly with my genes I would not want to any way..although I am sad that I cannot have my own I accept that and am excited to adopt in the future and help children in need. Even it was a good possibility I would not have my own because of all the risks.

Hope this helps.
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